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yesterday to win the nfc east. maybe rg3 can negotiate the fiscal cliff next. we'll be right back with more on "morning joe." humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? ♪ >>> all right, there were some sports events that happened over the weekend, and -- >> one or two. >> -- i'm going to toss this to michael steele, who loves the redskins, and they made the playoffs, michael. >> absolutely. hail to the redskins. rg3, alfred morris, boy, they knocked it out of the park. and look, the washington guys like biden and mcconnell can learn something from this, you know? when the quarterback is down, maybe you get a little tailback like alfred morris to come in and help you out, and that's what he did for the skins. awesome game last night. >> all right. ed rendell, i guess we've got rookie quarterbacks
the fiscal cliff, the next big battle has already arrived. treasury secretary tim geithner says government borrowing hits the debt ceiling today. with me now, former new hampshire republican senator judd gregg. he's currently co-chairman of the campaign to fix the debt. senator, let's -- i want to start 50,000 feet, and we'll move down closer to ground level, but as a former member of the senate, we've now had two grand bargains, one around the debt ceiling, one around the fiscal cliff, seemingly, well, on the debt ceiling definitely, and on this one, seemingly fall apart. now that you're on the outside, are people right to be skeptical that congress can do anything? i hesitate to say big. even medium in terms of addressing our debt and spending problems? >> oh, they're absolutely correct in being skeptical, but congress can act. it has acted in the past. regrettably, it usually acts in crisis. for example, during the financial meltdown, when the entire banking system of our nation would have collapsed, congress did act. and we've acted in other situations such as right after 9/11. so, may
to avoid the fiscal cliff can happen in the next couple of hours. let me bring chuck todd in. and dan, i loved when you were talking and ed rendell went like this, and you pushed him hand down and continued talking. that was effective. >> maybe they should do that. >> chuck todd. chuck. >> look, you know, the irony to all this is i think when you look at the deal that's about to be struck, if it happens between mcconnell and biden, it's pretty clear that the white house and mcconnell would have gotten this deal done if they were the two negotiating partners. mitch mcconnell. look where they're coming around on. when boehner decided to halt the talks and go toward his plan "b," they were upset because they thought the white house should be coming up another $100 billion, $150 billion on spending cuts. what i never understood is why stop the talks right then? if you believed you were close, the white house at $400,000, boehner at $1 million, they stopped trading proposals. boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to e
a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up, their next fight over the dead ceiling will be queued up and ready to go. whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff tomorrow night, a political stand-off over the debt ceiling is imminent. joining us sort through all of this current and future fiscal crises is ezra klein. at "the washington post" as well as columnist for bloomberg view. thanks for joining us. you addressed the issue of what happens next, i saw you on rachel's show friday. your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >> there's a significant difference of opinion in the political ramification of what happens if we go over and it comes down debt ceiling. if we go over the fiscal cliff they have all of the leverage because we'll go into the debt ceiling and it will be just like 2011 again. they'll say we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut entitlements, barack obama will say no and terrified of consequences of national default he'll say yes. so they'll get all of the entitlement cuts with no tax increases on the tabl
government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our government. this is our government. the republicans need to understand that social security and medicare -- listen, those are so important. people are talking about i do not want children paying the bill. they will need social security as well. i want republicans to realize that they were elected to do the will of the people. not just the three% or whatever. they all need to understand that we are all affected by their thinking -- the president won the election, right? host: thank you for the call. i want to take you through some of the effects, if we do go off the fiscal cliff, if congress takes no action. this is the chart from the new york times of what will happen immediately and in the next couple
, sanjay. >>> more on our special coverage of the fast moving negotiations over the fiscal cliff. up next, hear why one high profile democrat says going over the cliff would be good for the stock market. and your 401(k). check this out.  >>> a compromise on the estate tax may be part of a last minute deal in the fiscal cliff. we're talking about how much money you can leave for your loved ones after you die. republicans want to extend the current estate tax that tops out at 35% and affects the states. the outline of the deal that just has been floated together would set the estate tax at 40% and the threshold at $5 million. let's bring christine romans in to make sense out of all of this. what do the numbers mean to real people? >> what it means, it is a victory politically for republicans and it means many republicans have said for a small business owner, small family farmers, people who have worked hard and amassed an estate, it means that they won't have to pay much more than they currently do for an estate tax. this is a true compromise here. because this is what you
in that sector. >> and then next as lawmakers make a last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff, what's an investor to do right now? should you opt for the relative safety of gold in the new year, for example, or take your chances with, oh, how about stocks? it's gold versus stocks when we come back after this. iency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male announcer ] just like you, business pro. just like you. go national. go like a pro. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. >>> as we speak, congressional leaders and president obama are meeting at the white house as they work on last-minute negoti
americans when it comes to the fiscal cliff stalemate. we'll hear what some of you had to say next. Ñe >>> let's face it, fiscal cliff has most people outraged. we asked for you to send in your thoughts on this matter, and boy did you ever do it. we opened up a can of worms when we did this. joining us from orlando, and we received lots of feedback from our eye reporters, terry, i want you to listen and get your reaction to one of them who holds nothing back, calling lawmakers spoiled brats. >> this whole fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in la-la land and everyone's saying how you're acting like a bunch of spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than doing the right thing and actually representing the people who elected you. >> understand why she's upset, because most americans -- i don't know, do you think most americans have an idea of what all this fiscal cliff chatter means? >> oh, yes. oh, yes, don, i think people have a very, very good idea, and it's not just a selfish idea, eithe
the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart c
regardless what happens today or over the next few days regarding the fiscal cliff. >> that's interesting. what would you be buying? i know you're a trading kind of guy, you're looking for dips, looking to buy on dips. >> right. >> what would you buy? >> well, there's nothing that i see that's attractive right now. i'm actually short the market and what i would like to see, to tell you the truth, a little rally caused by resolution of the fiscal cliff. there may be some stop gap measure, i think that the market will cling to that as a reason to stay the short-term rally and looking to sell stocks and short stocks into that rally. so i'm not really interested in buying some stocks right at this moment to tell you the truth. >> that's interesting. i just want to try to summarize for our general interest >> right. but you say it's not going to last. the underlying economic situation is bad, down we go on the stock market at some point, fairly soon. is that accurate? >> yeah, yeah, and i think you're seeing that in a lot of the stocks, in a lot of the underlying leadership that was leading ma
falling over the fiscal cliff. senate leaders need to put something together to avoid tax increases for just about everyone and big spending cuts. senator claire mccaskill says a make or brake deal comes down to a few lawmakers on topic of raising taxes for the wealthy. >> it remains to be scene whether the republicans being driven by a very extreme group of house members will allow our economy to pert because of their desire to protect multimillionaires in this country. that's what it's going to boil down to. >> any plan would need house speaker john baner to bring it to the floor for a vote. republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do you have any
as we're headed in to this fiscal cliff. >> you can probably ask people this next thing off the street, to give examples of the dysfunction of this congress because so many of these have been high profile. >> well, sure. there's so many different things of the debate, the standoff and both sides took some hits for. the super-committee failure setting this in motion the first place. the near shutdown of the government in 2011 and the defeat of the disabilities treaty that was because of republicans not liking the united nations, anything with u.n. on it. that went down even with bob dole on the floor, you know, at the senate, coming back, hoping republicans help pass it and would not. >> last thing and quickly, do you have some arguing that, you know what? it's okay passing fewer bills. some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the bet
on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? editor at large for fortune magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. >> i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i think so, don. and what's really troubling about the debate is really missed by a lot of commentators, this is really a spending issue. we understand that even if taxes go up on individuals making over 200,000 and families making over 250, it only plugs about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years, we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it's going to be about a trillion through 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down. the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going
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burden on millionaires. the result, find out next. >> bret: no grapevine. top story, fiscal cliff is going over it. the senate majority leader, not moved the bill to the senate floor yet. the house would only deal with whatever passed the senate. if it passed the senate at all. all indications are the house will not vote on any fiscal cliff legislation tonight. here is how the potential deal stacks up. they will be taxed at 39.6%. up from 35%. tax on capital gain and individuals for $400,000 for individuals would increase to 20%. from 15%. the alternative minimum tax is permanently indexed to inflation. it has been annual patch. that would be permanent. the plan extent the child tax red earned income tax credit. up to $2,500 tax credit for collision tuition. unemployment benefit are extented for one year. same for the medicare doc fix and the social security payroll tax cut. reverse to rate of 6.2%. those are the deals as they stand right now. although things are developing and they could change. those looking to europe for inspir ration and coming up with american tax rates that
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in the next five hours, america will be going over the fiscal cliff. we do know that after intense negotiations between senate minority leaders, let me show you the highlights. $600 billion in revenue will be raised over the next decade through a series of raises on taxes for the wealthiest americans. and those rates would also carry over for couples making under 450,000. any income above those two numbers would be taxed at 39.6 pnt. the top tax rate under president clinton. and capital gains taxes above those amounts would be increased to 20%, that is up from 15%. this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it. >> just an hour later, senate minori
tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wi
for some direction after fiscal cliff negotiations stall. we get the word from the nyse floor, next on what you should be watching in today's session. later on, the anti-tax man himself is here to tell us about how he feels about the latest developments in the fiscal cliff negotiations. what a wild ride here we've seen all morning long. right now the dow up about 25. >>> welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm john harwood in washington. i want to bring you up to date on the latest of the talks between vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. there's some concern among democrats who have heard that the income threshold for tax rate increases may be going up to 400, 450, $500,000. a source familiar with the talks just phoned me to say the democrats are only considering that under a couple of conditions. one is that if the threshold goes up to that level, the top income tax rate would go all the way back up to the clinton era rate of 39.6%. not some mid point of 37% talked about a couple of weeks ago. secondly, that it would be accompanied by more revenue from the estate tax than is happ
is prepared to step in today if congress can't get something together to deal with the fiscal cliff deadline just 14 hours away from now. an update from 1600 pennsylvania avenue moments away. >> well, it will be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> is that more than you expected to go up january 1st. >> even a dollar's more than i can afford, yes. so not good news heather: thousands of first-responders are joining friends and family paying tribute to a hero firefighter gunned down in the line of duty. you're looking live at the scene. this is in webster, new york, where the funeral of getting underway. the 19-year-old volunteer was one of two firefighters shot and killed on christmas eve while responding to a fire set by gunman, william spengler. we well have much more on this coming up. we have potential breaking news. potential movement on the senate on the budget battle. brand new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. the number two in the republican senate sayin
for your time. >> thanks, chris. >>> president obama will be making a statement on the fiscal cliff moments from now at 1:30 eastern time. stay with us for live coverage of that. next, an update on secretary of state hillary clinton's health scare. >>> minutes from now medicine prez obama will make a statement about the state of the fiscal cliff negotiations. stay with us for live coverage of it. >>> meantime, secretary of state hillary clinton is under observation at new york -- at a new york city hospital today. her spokesman says she was admitted sunday for a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained during a recent bout with the stomach flu. nbc's chief science and health correspondent bob bazell is at new york presbyterian hospital where secretary clinton is being treated. bob, i know this is a story we're all keeping a very close eye on. what's the latest? we know she has a blood clot that came from -- they say from the concussion. we know it's being treated with anti-coagulant drugs. a lot of doctors are puzzled by that series of events because most blood clots that come
bit in washington next year. maybe once all the dust is settled from this fiscal cliff apocalypse that we're dealing with right now. >> that requires a lot of things to happen. means we've got to get past it, though. >> right. if we ever do. we could do the bungee jump thing where we go into january and then we're dealing with debt ceiling fight that goes longer than that potentially. this thing could stretch on for a long time. >> eamon, if jeb hensarling and maxine waters can get together on something, we can get together. >> that's right. that is going to be the oddest couple on capitol hill. i was just joking about this, a little bit like one of those diagrams except it doesn't overlap at all. where are they going to find some way to agree to work together on. >> they're perfect. on a seesaw, you don't need a big fat guy -- you need people that weigh the same. >> right. >> and they're both -- i wonder what -- >> heavyweights. >> yeah, exactly i wonder what jared -- are you sick? >> i do have a cold. i'm nursing a little hot tea here which is helping but not helping enough. >>
, everybody. the next hour, a last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president has called all four congressional leaders to the white house no a high stakes meeting. is there really any hope? i'll speak with congressman sanderson. and then should teachers be armed in the classroom? it's a big debate. whop wants at least one teacher armed at every school in his state. >>> then remembers stormin' norman, the history general who died yesterday. we'll have barry mccaffery reflecting on one of the most celebrated battlefield generals of our time. tends to stay in mo. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefit
of oscillation on the back of, as you said, the fiscal cliff and concerns that we may fall off. does that mean that people are getting complacent? they think even though we might not get a deal in the next 24 hours, we will get a deal fairly imminently. in the meantime, though, this is what we've got in terms of the major european indices. that will open and the germans will come to that in a few minutes' time it has been up year-to-date around about 6% and that makes the ftse 100 a real lagger compared with some of its european peers. a laggard, as well, compared to the cac 40. we have no fiscal cliff deal as of yet and it is up 1%. that means the cac 40, the french equity market, the blue chips there are up over 15% year-to-date. and a lot of markets are being shut today, including the dax, it pales to insignificant compared to this. the dax when it closed on friday closed out a 29% increase year-to-date. a stunning performance from those german blue chips, especially when you consider the fact that we are in and out of recession in europe, we have a real malaise in front of a lot of sectors
minute talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. barbara boxer is talking right there on the senate floor of the house and senate both in rare new year's eve sessions today ahead of the deadline that triggers across the board tax hikes with dramatic cuts in military and domestic spending. joining us now bob cusack the manage evening editor of the hill the. great to have you here today. >> great to be here. >> many americans are frustrated that congress has taken us to the brink once again with little or no progress. what are you hearing at this moment? is there progress at this time? >> well, we are hearing that there has been progress between vice president biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. still we are nearly 12 hours from the cliff. we don't have a bill. there has actually been a stunning lack of urgency on cant toll hill. on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks
-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly de
months. the reason donors are concerned that a fiscal cliff deal could limit the tax deduction on charitable giving in the future. >> good day to you. is that the reason? i think people are worried they won't know what the deduction listen next we're, so front-loading the deduction this year. hopefully it's my wish they don't reduce it at all. >> let's look at some of the numbers. each year 300 billion is given to charity and claim about 50 billion a year in tax deductions. so when you look at some of the numbers, a person making about $too,000, they can deduct 35%. if that were to go down to 28%, how much do you think that would impact giving? >> you know, the estimate is anywhere between 1 and 30 billi billion, depending on how the deduction goes, and even if it's eliminated. it's hard to predict. one of the important things is this deduction han in place since 1917, and no one has ever touched it before. so we have no data on what's going to happen, but i think the americans, three quarters of the americans are concerned it will reduce the money to charity. >>> you know, if
'll hear from republican congressman howard mckin about the fiscal cliff talks from the other side of the aisle. this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but it's the family party! really jingles your bells, doesn't it? my gift to you! the capital one venture card! for any flight, any time! that's double miles you can actually use! how illuminating. what's in your wallet? let me guess, am i on the naughty list again? ho ho ho! >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will be ringing in the new year from a hospital. doctors closely monitoring clinton for the next couple days. they discovered a blood clot during a followup exam related to a concussion she suffered earlier this month. the state department issued this statement saying "she's being treated with blood thinners and is at new york hospital to monitor the medication. her doctors will continue to assess her condition including other issues associated with her concussion." here'
on "starting point," the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. we'll ask one house member if he expects to be voting on a deal today. next, utah congressman jason chaffetz. and is the kardashian clan about to get bigger? the new year's news you had to have. kim and kanye west, they respond to the pregnancy rumors. >>> breaking news, everyone. you're watching "starting point." so i switched my car insurance to state farm... saved $480 bucks. you know what that is? yeah. don't say it. so you know what it is, right? yeah, yeah, don't. that's a lot of dough! ♪ [ male announcer ] switch and you could save $480 bucks with state farm. when i'm out with my kids, my daughter's like, "mom, wait up!" and i'm thinking, "shouldn't you have more energy than me? you're, like, eight!" [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. advantage: mom. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. >>> millions of americans counting down to a stifling new year of tax hike
're keeping our eye on the senate back in session with the fiscal cliff talks now down to the wire. the big question is even if the senate reaches a deal as they continue the debate will republicans pass anything with tax hikes in the house? up next republican congressman tom cole. and baby makes three. kim kardashian and kanye west's big baby announcement. also, sydney, australia celebrating the new year just three hours ago with fireworks over the famous opera house. in new york city, an already crowded times square. people waking up there. our big question what is your new year's resolution for 2013? tweet me at richard lui. we'll share some of your comments later. >>> a live look at the markets which appear to be taking going over the fiscal cliff in stride. many people say it is built into the market. many investors are still confident leaders will strike some sort of deal as talks go down to the wire and even if they don't they are counting on senate majority leader harry reid to present a backup proposal to limit some of the damage. we're watching live pictures on the right-hand side
to the fiscal cliff. talks are going on through the night to try to reach a deal. >> without an agreement, the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3,400. abc's preeti arla is joining us from washington with more on what this means. preeti? >> reporter: john and paula, top leaders seemed optimistic, but that seemed to shift as the day went on. that optimism replaced by pessimism and still no deal with time running out. the clock is ticking, negotiations are ongoing. but at this point, democrats and republicans remain at odds. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> reporter: president obama called for immediate action but there was no vote in the senate. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: minority leader mitch mcconnell called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing
is back with us. what are the stories? some work might start on the fiscal cliff? one can only hope the president comes back. we are assuming the house and the senate will be milling about. you will know this better than i. then the other story we might be talking about is whoever governor neal abercrombie of hawaii might select to fill the senate seat to be selected by daniel inouye. >> there is a rush ta to that so the senator can participate in the fiscal cliff votes. that could be an important vote. >> it will definitely be an important vote. the reason i brought it up is twitter being what it is, representative-elect told them, just got elected, 32-year-old combat veteran what has not taken her seat yet got an endorsement from cal penn to be the person selected to take senator inouye's seat. >> she can be an answer to a trivia question. who is a representative-elect and never served a day in office and became senator. that's incredible. some day. jonathan, thank you so much. we appreciate that. that does it for this edition of andr"andrea mitchell reports." my colleague has a l
a fiscal cliff deal until late january, but the possible market turmoil to follow could create a stock buying opportunity. joining me now, global financial services president and portfolio manager. of course you'll see the glass half full on this one. yet been saying this since november, to be fair. >> taking the position that we don't think the politicians are really going to get anything done until the backs of firmly against the wall which will be after the first pay cycle of the new year. that's why we are expecting third week of january, but this is also an opportunity. we have to recognize that. if you look at the market today, just imagine. if you pull 20 investment professionals yesterday we probably would have said markets are going to be down today. better than expected economic news. cheryl: is trying to, but they're is a lot -- one of the best performing sectors of 2012 was financials. it would have predicted that at the beginning of 2012? is in that kind of hard for people to focus on what sectors for people to look at when you have this crowd of cliff uncertainty? >> ther
. we'll see what they have in terms of a fiscal cliff. we have much more as we track this countdown. congressman steny hoyer, tom cole, steve israel all next. first a look at some people behind the scenes at msnbc. i hope you all have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown!" >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> happy new year from "andrea mitchell reports." >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas from "the cycle!" >> happy holidays from the "alex witt" team. >> happy holidays from "up with chris hayes." >> happy holidays! >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from msnbc. >> happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from the p.a.s. >> from all of us at msnbc, merry christmas and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays, everybody. >> hello, team. what a wonderful 2012. i'm looking forward to a fantastic 2013. happy new year. >>> happy new year. the question today. are you ready to go cliff diving? breaking news to
when it comes to the fiscal cliff. one, we'll see an agreement within the next 48 hours in which case middle class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate and republican also have to decide if they're going to block it. >> biden and mcconnell are said to be only about $100,000 apart on where the bush era tax cuts would expire with the republican pushing for $550,000 a year. democrats offering a 450,000. biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political mess. i'm interested in getting a result here. >
hour deal to keep the country from falling off the fiscal cliff? important meetings set to begin in hours. >>> vodka bottle credited with thwarting this stick-up tempt. we'll show you the dramatic video. >>> and michael finney gives your new year's resolution to drop weight a jumpstart. we'll put >>> last day of 2012, good morning i'm katie marzullo in for eric thomas. >>> and i'm kristen sze. clear, beautiful weather. >>> check it out right here, boom, that is clear, no radar returns no rain, the only thing you are going to find is a little frost on the ground this morning because of the chilly temperatures. a few high clouds from time to time, definitely a bright day. off to a chilly start around the bay 34 to 44, 44 in san francisco, the warm spot. by noon, [ inaudible ]
to fall off that fiscal cliff. if that happens, that would mean the end of the temporary payroll tax cuts. even if that doesn't happen, most believe taxes will go up next year. >> one of the things that is being floated right now is people are advising people to get out of dividend paying funds, high dividend yield funds and move more into tax exempt bonds and things like that that won't be taxed. >> the current budget negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner also could mean the reduction of the popular deduction for charitable contributions. >>- q. i if it came to the poi -- >> if it came to the point where i wasn't receiving my credit for helping out a charity or even helping them out in their situation, then why would i even help them out? >> statements like that that has the chief executive officer of the united way of the bay area and other nonprofits fighting to obtain charitable deductions. >> it would be a mistake to think thereth was only a benefit for high income people. 24r* are many, many donors who itemize their taxes, and they take advantage of the
a final resolution of the fiscal cliff. >> and, kristin, you mentioned the vice president who got engaged in this after he got a call from mitch mcconnell and by all accounts late into the night and into today there were many phone calls between these two men, who have done deals for i guess you could say decades now. >> reporter: absolutely. >> do we now how involved he is right now? and will he continue to be through the evening? >> reporter: i think he will be. i'm told that he has been working the phones all day. we expect that to continue certainly throughout the evening. as you point out, these two men have a very strong relationship, and so right now the hope is that they, along with, of course, the hen of the other people involved in these negotiations, the president continues to be involved, majority leader harry reid continues to be involved. i'm told he has spoken to the president several times today. so the hope is though that they really will be able to at this point because they are so close to move this forward. but, again, that remains a big question mark. president obama,
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. thank you. >> thank you, martin. >>> what going over the fiscal cliff means for you. for me. for all of us. we are monitoring the talks on capitol hill, the number two senator on the hill, dick durbin, joins us next. ♪ aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> let's go back to dana bash monitoring developments on capitol hill. dana? >> that's right, martin, talking to democrats now coming out of their nearly two-hour meeting talking about the talks are and we now have the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin from illinois. thank you very much. can you give us a reality check of where things stand and more importantly, if you really think that a deal can be done pie the clock striking midnight tonigh
. >>> coming up, a down-to-the wire negotiations on the fiscal cliff. >>> republicans have taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. truth is, they should have never been on the table to begin with. there's still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement. i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed with debate only. >> without objection, so ordered. >> harry reid on capitol hill just moments ago talking about the progress in the fiscal cliff negotiations. let's bring back paul cane from "the washington post." what are your thoughts of that that they'll reconvene tomorrow? >> that's senate speak for progress. that was a very, very good moment there. you know, earlier today, this afternoon, reid essentially said he didn't have another offer to give and best of luck, joe biden and mr. mcconnell in your talks. my sources have said that those talks went very well and they've restarted the talks now between reid and mcconnell. now, it's going to go probably late tonight, late tonight. we'll have to
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